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Hal9000
3rd May 2008, 05:04 AM
Just saw there is Plesk 8.4 in the updater. However I can't find any release notes.
What is new in this version? I guess nothing...

Bertille
3rd May 2008, 05:51 AM
What's new in Plesk 8.4.0 (based on the What's New inside Plesk) :

- Simplified installation of site applications. All site applications are sorted by categories, which makes it easier to choose the right application to install.

- DomainKeys support. Now you can use DomainKeys e-mail sender authentication mechanism to reduce the amount of spam and phishing e-mails that are sent to your customers. For more information, refer to the chapter Setting Up Spam Protection.

- Updated components used with Plesk Control Panel. The latest versions of the following software can be used with Plesk Control Panel: Acronis True Image Server 9.5, Parallels Plesk Sitebuilder 4.2, Horde 3.1.7, SPAW 2.0 (editing software used in Plesk File Manager), Adobe ColdFusion 8.

- 4PSA VoipNow software support. The VoIP solution developed by 4PSA is now fully supported by Plesk Control Panel. For information about 4PSA VoipNow, refer to http://www.4psa.com/index.php?pcat=p...ag=4psavoipnow

And 2 others things :

- You can choose to have database name with the customer name.
- You can "protect" the DNS

S.Celik
3rd May 2008, 06:06 AM
And "much more", "bigger" parallels & virtuozzo ads everywhere on plesk panel :)

fpak0055
3rd May 2008, 06:23 AM
I have serious problem after upgrading from 8.3.0 to 8.4.0

http://forum.swsoft.com/showthread.php?t=52575

someone can help me ?

thank you all! ;)

sergius
3rd May 2008, 11:48 AM
Just saw there is Plesk 8.4 in the updater. However I can't find any release notes.
What is new in this version? I guess nothing...

[+] Web application categories - All web applications are now sorted by categories, which makes it easier to choose the right application to install.
[+] Application Packaging Standard (APS) CGI support - Complete support of APS CGI applications.
[+] DomainKeys support - You can use DomainKeys e-mail sender authentication system to reduce the amount of spam and phishing e-mails that are sent to your customers.
[+] Database users prefix - To make managing database users easier, new database users can be created with corresponding client username added to database user name as a prefix.
[+] Forbidding creation of domains in foreign DNS zones - Plesk now has an option to allow or forbid users to create new subdomains and domain aliases in the DNS zones belonging to other users.
[+] Component updates - Updates for multiple built-in third-party components, including:
Horde 3.1.7 and its components
ProFTPD 1.3.1
SPAW 2.0
[+] 4PSA VoipNow integration - Plesk 8.4 provides integration with 4PSA VoipNow
[+] openSuSE 10.3 support - Plesk 8.4 can be installed on openSuSE 10.3
[+] Fedora 8 support - Plesk 8.4 can be installed on Fedora 8
[+] Maximum number of recipients restriction in Qmail - Server administrator can limit maximum number of mail recipients to prevent users from sending mass e-mail.
[+] Adobe Coldfusion 8 support - Plesk now supports Adobe Coldfusion 8
[+] New Plesk Control Panel events - New API events generated upon domain and client template creation, update or removal are available.
[-] Numerous bugs were resolved.

CSN-Carl
3rd May 2008, 02:02 PM
Sergius do you have more details on the "numerous bug fixes"?

Thanks

wsani
3rd May 2008, 03:56 PM
How about a world of hurt?

Bertille
3rd May 2008, 04:25 PM
[+] Maximum number of recipients restriction in Qmail - Server administrator can limit maximum number of mail recipients to prevent users from sending mass e-mail.

Where can we find this setting ?

Thanks.

joeybutterface
3rd May 2008, 09:26 PM
Ironic that we can now check for "DomainKeys" on incoming email, but we cannot conform to the DomainKeys specification ourselves with the outgoing email sent from the server.

Will they ever implement this?

breun
4th May 2008, 05:38 AM
Ironic that we can now check for "DomainKeys" on incoming email, but we cannot conform to the DomainKeys specification ourselves with the outgoing email sent from the server.

Will they ever implement this?

I believe I read this is possible also yesterday.

breun
4th May 2008, 06:07 AM
'Setting Up Spam Protection Based on DomainKeys' says:

To switch on spam protection based on DomainKeys:
1. Click the Server shortcut in the navigation pane.
2. Click the Mail icon in the Services group.
3. Under the DomainKeys spam protection group, select the following options:
- Allow signing outgoing mail. Selecting this option allows you and your customers to switch on support for DomainKeys e-mail signing on a per-domain basis through the domain administration screens of the control panel (Domains > domain name > Mail > Preferences > Use DomainKeys spam protection system to sign outgoing e-mail messages option). It does not automatically switch on signing of outgoing e-mail messages.
- Verify incoming mail. Selecting this option will configure the DomainKeys system to check all e-mail messages coming to e-mail users under all domains hosted on the server.
4. Click OK.

Now your mail server will check all incoming e-mail messages to ensure that they come from the claimed senders. All messages, sent from the domains that use DomainKeys to sign e-mail, which fail verification will be discarded. All messages, sent from the domains that do not participate in the DomainKeys program and do not sign e-mail, will be accepted without verifying.

To switch on signing outgoing e-mail messages for a single domain:
1. Go to Domains > domain name > Mail > Preferences.
2. Select the Use DomainKeys spam protection system to sign outgoing e-mail messages check box.
3. Click OK.

To switch on signing outgoing e-mail messages for a number of domains at once:
1. Click Domains.
2. Select the check boxes to the left of the domain names you need. To select all domains in the list, select the upper left check box in the column heading.
3. Click Group Operations.
4. Under Preferences, select the Switch on option next to the Use DomainKeys spam protection system to sign outgoing e-mail messages field.
5. Click OK.

Now, the following will happen for the selected domains:
- Private keys are generated and placed in the server's database.
- Public keys are generated and placed in the TXT resource records created in the domains' DNS zones.
- The sender's policy advertised in the DNS TXT resource records is set to "all e-mail messages sent from this domain must be cryptographically signed; if someone receives an e-mail message claiming to originate from this domain, which is not signed, then this e-mail must be discarded."
- Outgoing e-mail messages are digitally signed: the "DomainKeys-Signature" header containing a signature based on a private key is added to the message headers.

So it is possible to use DomainKeys on outgoing mail.

joeybutterface
4th May 2008, 08:39 AM
Yeah it's great to see they have finally properly implemented the DomainKeys specification. Very easy to setup too. I can confirm it works.

A good surprise since it wasn't expected until Plesk 9.

Well done Parallels!

ideasmultiples
4th May 2008, 10:33 AM
Upgrade and install Plesk options & modules disappears in autoinstaller and Plesk panel after upgrade or install 4.0

The following product versions are available:

1. [ ] (is sitebuilder but appear blank)
2. SSO
3. (*) SSO 2.0 (currently installed)

websitesource
4th May 2008, 12:53 PM
I'm having this same problem with 8.4.0 not being listed in the updater now. In fact, if I go to the updater in the control panel it says "No releases available" and doesn't list anything there. I just checked the update site http://autoinstall.plesk.com/ and it looks to me like there aren't even 8.4.0 packages there. Did the update site change with the new release maybe? Maybe they haven't synced up all the repositories yet or something. Anyone know what URL the older releases were using for update information?

Kelly Shutt

ideasmultiples
4th May 2008, 12:59 PM
true, in http://autoinstall.plesk.com/ not appear references to 4.0, I guess it's too soon, we will have to wait a day or two ...

HostingGuy
4th May 2008, 01:31 PM
[+] Database users prefix - To make managing database users easier, new database users can be created with corresponding client username added to database user name as a prefix.

For this item it will by default truncate the clients username to 5 characters. I found no where in the UI to modify this setting, but you can change it directly in PSA database.


mysql -uadmin -p`cat /etc/psa/.psa.shadow` psa -e "insert into misc values('db_user_length',10)"


EDIT - it also looks like it has been pulled, its no longer appearing in the GUI updater.

Total
4th May 2008, 07:42 PM
NO 8.4 in my updater , only 8.3 ?? maybe will have to wait for the upgrade to show up ..

HostingGuy
4th May 2008, 08:00 PM
yeah looks like it has been pulled, most likely becuase of all the people suddenly having "problems" after the upgrade - if it even completes.

Given the SwSoft mantra of updates and releases, I would never upgrade a production machine the first two weeks after a release, it will most likely kill your machine, and your customers will get pissed.

sergius
5th May 2008, 07:08 AM
Upgrade and install Plesk options & modules disappears in autoinstaller and Plesk panel after upgrade or install 4.0

Ladies and Gentlemen,

We need to block access to 8.4 Autoinstaller for couple of days.
During this time, those who has managed to upgrade the product will not be able to get other updates.
Please check the official announcements on the Parallels site.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

danliker
5th May 2008, 07:12 AM
can you tell us why ?

Brujo
5th May 2008, 07:16 AM
which official announcements ??

CSN-Carl
5th May 2008, 11:53 AM
Perhaps they have decided to listen to our feedback and fix the the Awstats bug and remove the Parallels advertising? :)

S.Celik
5th May 2008, 12:20 PM
Perhaps they have decided to listen to our feedback and fix the the Awstats bug and remove the Parallels advertising? :)

Fixing Awstats Bug => maybe
Removing ads => i don't think so
Adding more ads => why not :)

Hal9000
5th May 2008, 12:50 PM
they listen to feedback?
lol, i'm surprised how some people can still keep dreaming.
i eventually stopped about a year ago, when plesk 8.2 was released and the half-announced postfix support still wasnt there.
enough.

HostingGuy
5th May 2008, 01:19 PM
http://www.parallels.com/en/products/plesk/
Where is the official announcement ?

tommo
5th May 2008, 09:58 PM
Gentlemen,



and ladies

nibb
6th May 2008, 04:34 AM
I was just peaking around the forum to laugh a while. Im so glad we moved away from Plesk. I see the problems not only stay but increase. Plesk is a very poor programming and for those that did not found out yet Plesk 8.4 was quickly retired because it contains besides the usual bugs an AMAZING security whole which lets you root directly into a server and you dont need to be a computer engineer to find it out.

What wonders me is that the CEO itself or someone impersonating him has replied in this forum. It seems Parallels found out they actually had a community going on.

And i see the ads for Virtuozzo are getting bigger with each version. I suppose they are really afraid now that Microsoft has warned them that each VPS need a OS license and the big move of Microsoft into the Virtualization arena. As for Virtuozzo, its just OpenVZ free. Big companies and enterprise applications would not even play with Virtuozzo they would just use the daddy VMware. I put all this so Parallels realizes that their products are actually to heavy priced tagged for the quality they serve a client. And i remember a interview of Sergei where he said Virtuozzo was way better since it was a virtualization on the application layer opposed as hardware virtualization like Parallels. Imagine that, and not only did Sw Soft actually bought then Parallels but they changed their name to it. That just proofs how other products are actually way better. I wonder which technology invented Parallels in the first way since Plesk was from Confix as well...

danliker
6th May 2008, 04:43 AM
if there realy is a "AMAZING security whole", tell us more about it...

atomicturtle
6th May 2008, 10:06 AM
Yes indeed, if you've found a vulnerability let us know about it.


And Plesk didn't come from Confixx. Im a founder or Plesk, and I think I would have noticed that :P

Geoff Riley
6th May 2008, 10:15 AM
an AMAZING security whole

...hmmm....? You're not referring to my slightly tongue in cheek suggestion that there might be a security hole that caused it to be withdrawn are you? If so, that really was more of a bit of devilment than anything else, when I wrote it I hadn't any information to back up such a suggestion.

Remember: you can't believe everything you read.
[Freddy Starr didn't really eat my hamster. -- please, if you don't get this reference, you're not missing anything!!]

Bertille
6th May 2008, 10:21 AM
[Freddy Starr didn't really eat my hamster. -- please, if you don't get this reference, you're not missing anything!!]

Maniac Mansion ?

danliker
6th May 2008, 12:00 PM
...hmmm....? You're not referring to my slightly tongue in cheek suggestion that there might be a security hole that caused it to be withdrawn are you?


no i referring to the post from nibb:

I was just peaking around the forum to laugh a while. Im so glad we moved away from Plesk. I see the problems not only stay but increase. Plesk is a very poor programming and for those that did not found out yet Plesk 8.4 was quickly retired because it contains besides the usual bugs an AMAZING security whole which lets you root directly into a server and you dont need to be a computer engineer to find it out.

Geoff Riley
6th May 2008, 12:26 PM
no i referring to the post from nibb:

Sorry danliker, it was nibb that I was directing my comment at anyway. ;)

S.Celik
7th May 2008, 01:54 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen,

We need to block access to 8.4 Autoinstaller for couple of days.
During this time, those who has managed to upgrade the product will not be able to get other updates.
Please check the official announcements on the Parallels site.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Your last announcement on forum is 1.5 years old :)

http://forum.swsoft.com/forumdisplay.php?f=3

And i couldn't find any announcement on parallels site. Please give us link of that announcement..

sergius
8th May 2008, 10:07 AM
We've released Parallels Plesk Control Panel 8.4

http://www.swsoft.com/en/plesk

Release notes
http://download1.swsoft.com/Plesk/Plesk8.4/Windows/8.4.0/plesk_8.4.0_build080505.00.htm
http://download1.swsoft.com/Plesk/Plesk8.4/plesk-8.4.0-for-rpm-based-os.html
http://download1.swsoft.com/Plesk/Plesk8.4/plesk-8.4.0-for-deb-based-os.html
http://download1.swsoft.com/Plesk/Plesk8.4/plesk-8.4.0-for-pkg-based-os.html

What's new
http://www.parallels.com/en/products/plesk/new/

danliker
8th May 2008, 03:41 PM
i am surprised that there are no changes between the version that now is released and the version last week !?

Geoff Riley
8th May 2008, 04:41 PM
i am surprised that there are no changes between the version that now is released and the version last week !?

In the absence of evidence to the contrary I've decided that it was pulled because the updated web pages weren't ready. It's as good a reason as any, and it accounts for no apparent difference in the rpms since the re-release.