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Cranky
7th February 2005, 11:57 AM
Time for a new feature-requests thread as my last one (http://forum.sw-soft.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15708&perpage=40&pagenumber=1) has become messy and confusing. Lots of great feedback, I think I've pulled all the important ones here - some from my last thread, some from elsewhere on the forums, and some from Plesk for Windows:

- AWStats as an option alongside webalizer

- DSpam integration

- Reseller creating sub-resellers user hierarchy

- Statistics for subdomains

- Branded webmail (per-client and per-domain basis)

- Language packs inclusive in cost

- Multiple FTP logins (with restrictive access for some FTP logins to certain directories)

- Ability to hide un-necessary directories from FTP users (bin, conf, pd, etc.)

- Hard-disk quota in "limits" section

- Separate DNS templates for each Client

- Circular/notifications system to communicate with clients, domain users and email users - with reseller support

- Per-client trouble ticket controls (e.g. admin can switch it off for his clients, but his clients can use it for his/her domain users)

- Zope support

- Remote access MySQL option per-db

- Moving clients to a predefined template rather than manually adjusting limits to change package

- Suspended domain holding page when domain switched "off"

- Per client holding page (instead of Plesk placeholder)

- Vhost.conf and vhost_ssl.conf updates via interface

- Urchin integration (like Coldfusion integration currently is)

- SPF DNS entries (http://spf.pobox.com) - at the moment we can enter these, but a wizard to generate them would be useful

- Have rollover transfer, where you have a monthly transfer and allow to set max rollover. Like they have 60GB/mo, and they only use 20GB, and the max rollover is 15GB, so they'll have 60GB next month plus the 15GB rolled over for 75GB next month.

- Automated server backup system

- Improved spamassassin support (e.g. score <1 = normal, 1-3 = tagged, 3+ = deleted) and also option to forward spam to a second mailbox

- Subdomain/webuser password-protected directories

- Subdomain/webuser frontpage support

- GnuPG support for email

- phpsuexec support

- Client overselling support (useful occasionally)

- Hard data transfer limits (overuse transfer and your site switches to holding page)

- Outlook automatic email account installer generator

- Additional webmail options (choose between IMP and SquirrelMail)

- Database user sharing ... 1 user for more than 1 database (maybe, I believe technically this can cause problems with PHP)

- Multiple users with same name in control panel (At the moment you can't add 2 clients with the same name (eg: John Smith))

- Shoutcast streaming integration (live streaming)

- Darwin streaming integration (streaming from playlist)

- mod_bandwidth integration for limiting bandwidth to some domains/clients

- Domain registration plugins - ENOM, DirectI, OpenSRS, etc.

- Master Control Panel On/Off switch to control whether clients can log in or not (like forum software has) which would be useful prior to and after upgrades.

- Jabber support might be a pretty cool option to be able to offer your clients. Their own IM server, with transports to AIM, ICQ, MSN, etc (http://www.jabber.org)

- Ability to have the central webmail covered by a domain's own SSL certificate instead of the default PLESK certificate.

- Option to hide Greyed-out buttons.

- /webstat and /ftpstat only viewable within Plesk (admin option).

- Option to add the DB username as a required prefix.

- FrontPage and FTP logins use same login details (click a checkbox to copy the details from FTP to the frontpage fields, or just automatically do it greying out the frontpage fields when the checkboxes clicked). (Plesk 7 for Windows uses same login for both)

- Option to have httpdocs and httpsdocs merged per-domain, e.g. checkbox makes http and https both serve files from the same directory

- "Live Support" addon option in the CP. Like an IRC chat window in the CP where sessioned clients could interact with logged in admin or support staff.

- I would be nice if the Plesk interface supports the abillity to choose with ACL rights a created database user should have... (at least in MySQL as its very simple to implement a point and click interface that supports it).

- Ability to register ACL for other allowed hosts than localhost to login as database user

- Easy setup for backup MX

- Improve spamassassin for users: trusted_networks, ok_languages, ok_locales and allow decimals in required hits.

- Client/domain templates, ability to decide which skin the client/domain has.

- Cerberus helpdesk integration (or even a simple 'contact us' form as option instead of the Helpdesk

- Redirect : Ability to choose between Redirect, Redirect Copy, Forward First ## characters (can be used for generating SMS alerts on mobiles).

- Advanced Filters / Forwarding rules : To create rules for handling & forwarding emails. Current rules apply only for webmail interface - Would be nice to have comprehensive rules at the mailbox level. (Example: If TO/CC Contain/Do Not Contain <Value Here> then Forward/Forward Copy/Move/Delete message to email/folder ).

- WebDAV support via the Control Panel just like that of protected directories.

- Webalizer should have more "clever" settings, for first, we need to remove referer from itself.

- SpamAssassin settings need an option to forward spam to a seperate email box and not just the one that it is currently filtering, this was you can forward it to your spamcop.net account ect..

- When training your Bayes filter they need to add a "Select all as spam" for people who have a dedicated spam dropbox instead of having to click on thousands of emails to designate they are spam.

- The ability to choose between different virus scanner backends such as clamAV, f-prot, etc., and have the email virus scanning icon appear if you have any of them enabled not just for dr.web.

- Have the default skins managed in the Skins button, as opposed to the Preferences button.

- Make the skin dropdown boxes list the skins alphabetically.

- Ability to move clients and domains between "client templates" and "domain templates" would be useful.

- A feature that allows users to import there address book to the white list in spam filter configuration would be nice.

- Possibilty to switch off the user rights to change the skin.

- Mono open source asp.net interpretor for *nix systems support.

- Spamassassin 3 support

- Ability to add an IP block rather than individual IP's to server IP Pool

- TMDA Support would be really, really nice.

- Nagios integration (www.nagios.org), as a module

- APF integration, as a module

- Reseller-level creation utilities (so resellers can link a system such as modernbill to Plesk for automated account creation, etc.)

- A basic and advanced interface selection (basic including the odd thing such as FTP password changes, mailbox setup - basically a very simple interface for users who don't have a clue, and standard Plesk interface for those who do - controllable by admin/client/domain level)

- Advanced feature selection (such as not showing any of the hosting stuff if we want to setup an email only domain-level account)

- Web user control panel access

- ProFTPd SSL patch

- Easy-to-configure control panel access so that we can serve Plesk from port 443 on a specific IP rather than messing with httpsd.conf, etc. to bind Plesk to an IP for behind-firewall access when 8443 is blocked

- Password-protected directories for subdomains

- Domain vhost and email aliasing (web/ftp, mail, or web/ftp/mail type)

- Advanced reseller branding (ability to add welcome message and news to main page of control panel etc.)

- Automated client backups (similar to domain-level, but client-wide)

- GUI for psa-bu with full-server backup automation

- Password Revealer, show to admin/client/domain/mail any password under their control, like FTP, mail, DB, PLESK etc.

- Ability to move domains between clients

- SSH sessions manager

- Database Space Limits

- Remote MySQL support

- Urchin Stats Support

- Hotlink protection

- Shared SSL Setup

- DNS SOA/IFXR customization

- Configuring script library access (in client/domain templates, and afterwards)

- phpMyAdmin root access

- FrontPage extensions on subdomains

Any further ideas?

Let's try keep it on topic please ...

Cranky
7th February 2005, 12:23 PM
Can you try to keep moaning in another thread? I'll respond there if you want, but I'll be backing Plesk.

Cranky
7th February 2005, 01:10 PM
That post is actually more like it .... but I really don't think that Plesk is behind any other control panel (that I know of) in terms of features. Sure, there are a few things that are missing, but Plesk then has more features which other control panels don't have. I don't for one minute believe that SWsoft will include even half of the features I posted above in the next release ... but neither do I think any other control panel will have all the features Plesk 8 will have when released.

Wouldn't you agree with that?

Cranky
7th February 2005, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by crimmson
Name one that is important to a reseller or provides a better feature list than the competion for a simple hosting package.
I'm not talking about managing the server, i'm talking strictly hosting packages that grab the attention of the client, that is after all why we use Plesk in the first place.

33 Application Vault scripts - to my knowledge, no other CP on the market features anywhere near as many - these are incredibly popular amongst my clients.

I'm not saying at all that you're not wrong ... there's plenty of must-have features which we don't have ... but it's software development, you can't expect everything to appear all at once without major bugs and problems - I don't want ANY of the above features if they're going to break my servers because they're rushed.

SWsoft have increased Plesk dev team significantly since acquiring Plesk, Inc. and have done a fantastic job at developing the product that is Plesk752 IMHO. I'd love to see some of these features in Plesk 8, but I'd also like to see a stable, reliable and relatively non-buggy product.

matt.simpson
7th February 2005, 04:41 PM
crimmson, what a stupid place to post a ranting post you idiot. Get a freakin life. Damn, Cranky probably spent hours compiling that list (which is a huge, thanks cranky) and you go and ruin it with a rant. You jerk. Damn, if I was SW-Soft I would have just deleted your stupid whining post.

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Anyways, thanks Cranky for your list, it is very very useful. I just went through that list going "yeah, that'd be great, yeah, that'd be great, yeah" so hey! It looks like a damn solid feature request list to me.

SW-Soft, Cranky is right. Include these features at your pace, but make sure there aren't bugs in the release before it's released. I don't care if I have to wait another whole year for a release, I want it to be without problems.

So my last feature request is that you spend the time doing QA like noones business. If your product is solid, and stable people will still prefer it. Damn, look at Debian stable :D

P.S. I could care less about the Application Vault and how many scripts it has in it.

Take care,
Matt Simpson

Cranky
7th February 2005, 04:41 PM
I absolutly could not agree more with you ... But... the clients don't care, they just want the same features as the other hosts provide and if they compare packages and don't see as much as the other hosts for relatively the same coin they leave .. simple as that.

YOUR clients don't care, mine do - most of them anyway - stability is much more important than the odd feature. I still don't know of any CP with 40 scripts included (I know of several with add-ons from third-parties though) .. but anyway, I give up, you win, Plesk is useless, I'm uninstalling it now.

bensontrent
7th February 2005, 07:39 PM
Autoresponder needs ability to reply to "reply-to" field

You're welcome Cranky :-)

justyxxxx
8th February 2005, 12:19 AM
Amen to the Reply to field for the autoresponder. That's been an issue FOREVER.

justyxxxx
8th February 2005, 12:43 AM
I looked thru your list, but didn't necessarily see this particular issue. I'd like to see it so that the email clients can't change their mailbox/control panel passwords and settings - have this as an option on a per user basis. This is because I use a third party system for billing and the two don't integrate. I'm sure others use third party systems. And, so to keep them up to date with the same info, I'd prefer that we have the control to allow the email client to change their information or to not change their information.

justyxxxx
8th February 2005, 12:51 AM
Also, I disagree about Plesk being behind the times as a control panel. I believe that they've really stepped up their features in the last year alone. And now with module feature, it opens up an entire new playing field. Hopefully they'll begin introducing additional hosted applications that we can offer to our clients - such as Word processing/accounting (actually I think there's alraedy an accounting program)/spreadsheet/etc) so that we can offer additional value added programs that cater to the general public so that they don't have to buy these programs, they can just "rent" them from the hosting provider.

bensontrent
8th February 2005, 01:25 AM
I agree with Justinxxxx, although the purpose of this post is to rant on what Plesk doesn't offer, I'm pleased to say my clients rave on what it does offer. Among user CP user interfaces (and I've used several), Plesk beats everyone hands down--Even before the xp interface makeover. They've laid the groundwork for a truly, modular, scalable, programmable user experience. Although I'm currently pulling my hair out trying to figure out a work-around for Plesk's inability to autorespond to a reply-to field-- I think the whole plesk team deserves a standing ovation for making my life easier on a daily basis.

Cranky
8th February 2005, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by bensontrent
...although the purpose of this post is to rant on what Plesk doesn't offer, I'm pleased to say my clients rave on what it does offer.

It's far from a rant from me ... just a place to pass ideas to the developers, from those of us actually using the product. :)

I agree completely with your posts.

crimmson
8th February 2005, 10:00 AM
Ok guys, i have removed my rants as that was not the purpose of Crankys post in the first place .. .

What i would like to see included in the next release: multiple ftp accounts, ability to move accounts from one reseller to another, more stability and bug fixes ..

NightStorm
8th February 2005, 11:09 PM
On "Dedicated IP's" (not shared, but exclusive), a total bandwidth monitoring option... instead of just including FTP, Mail, and HTTP, also include IRC, Shoutcast, and any other traffic that moves on that IP address when calculating the monthly total.
Right now, if you give a user an IRC server on their IP, they can burn theough 50MB of web traffic, 200GB of IRC traffic, and the bandwidth monitor will only say they used 50MB that month.

faris
9th February 2005, 08:04 AM
I'd like to see a facility to reject incoming email if the sending domain does not resolve (basically an additional tick box next to the current "Reject" option for email addressed to non-existent mailboxes).

Or would this lead to too much DNS load because a DNS lookup would have to be done for each received email?

Faris.

JLChafardet
24th February 2005, 10:35 PM
something that may not be hard to do, is also to see the expiration date of the domains on the listing, that would be a nice feature to add, maybe not much requested, but good to have it.

akamaka
25th February 2005, 01:41 AM
Users to see their mailbox quota and usage from CP and webmail.

insel
25th February 2005, 06:45 AM
Some items from my wish-list (some are allready on the very goof list of Cranky)

- Filter for spam-mails: Hits < x into mailbox, mark mails with more than x hits and forward them to a seperate spam-box, delete mails with more than y hits. (Customers could fetch mails, which are recognized as spam less frequent or delete them via webmail)

- Domain aliases. Mail to user@example.com goes to the mailbox of user@example.org or http://www.example.com/ shows the content of http://www.example.org/ (ServerAlias within Apache-configuration)

- Set mail-quota for the domain, not for each mailbox. So you don't have to think about how many mailboxes (and diskspace) a customer could use.

- Within domain creation process: Show, how much traffic, disk space, ... is still availavle for the client

- Possibility to enable spamassassin/drweb as a default for new mailboxes.

- If you have 5 mailboxes free and you start to create box no. 6 no warning is shown until you try to save this mailbox.

insel

webbit
25th February 2005, 05:49 PM
I'd like to see a group operation that can be performed on every mailbox on the server in one go to adjust the mailbox limits - not on a domain or user by user basis.

BBaboon
28th February 2005, 02:20 AM
Intergate some Real streaming (audio/video).
There are server packages available for Windows, Linux and FreeBSD.
I saw shoutcast, but Real is more pro.

Tnx.

BBaboon
28th February 2005, 02:28 AM
Im not sure if this is possible but openexchange would be nice too ( I see WebDav in the list already).

Wintermute
4th March 2005, 01:11 AM
How about 3rd party email, DNS and database support..
I would love for plesk to be able to provision Email on my communigate pro Email server, and database on a nice solid DB server or two (selectable)..Primary and secondary external DNS's are nice too...

Wintermute...out

2tonecafe
7th March 2005, 12:44 PM
I would like to see some form of online billing system such as Modern Bill (http://www.modernbill.com )

An integrated billing system that I was able to use / bill my clients without having to use some other form of billing systems would be awesome and top notch.

Would tie it all together for me.

Ohh and Ability to move domains from one client to another. (not sure if it is on list... i tried to read it all but went cross-eyed)

Cranky
8th March 2005, 09:03 AM
HSPcomplete does the automated billing stuff, I don't think Plesk itself will ever have billing as HSPc does everything you should need and more.

akucharski
8th March 2005, 11:24 PM
mysql 4.x support

JLChafardet
9th March 2005, 12:09 PM
just a though! would be nice to have server wide AMFPHP (http://www.amfphp.org/) support, to allow flash developers to count with a "onserver" flash remoting solution.

Best regards,

_tek
22nd March 2005, 04:05 PM
1. Debian support. without this many of us can not use plesk. This not only gives everyone another option is helps grow sw-softs customer base.
2. postfix support. Nothing against qmail just tired of having to learn every different MTA out there, have used qmail in the past and have had much greater success with postfix, just as secure. infinitely easier to administer.
3. ClamAV filtering, hard to start paying for what i have been using for free for years now. Drweb might be good but clamAV works just as well and its free.
4.Ability to add custom apps to the vault, i don't mind having to do all of the configuration stuff by hand. Don't know that i can not already do this today as the one box i am running plesk on is for a customer and not my own. As soon as debian is supported i will deploy to all of our debian boxes and have a chance to tinker in depth with it.

Debian support is a must have though.

postman
2nd April 2005, 05:48 AM
I agree with many of the features requested here espeically mod_mono ASP.NET support.

Would it also be possible to limit mailboxes by the number of emails in addition or instead of the mailbox size? I would like to limit my mailbox to 200 emails due to the quantity of spam in one particluar mailbox.

lvalics
12th May 2005, 04:21 PM
My list:

1. Possibility to export clients/domains templates and import on other PLESK box.

2. Advanced PLESK versus Dummy Admin, I mean if you choose Advanced, then you can have a few other tools like mod_bandwith, etc, usually hardly configured tools, but sometimes so necessary to secure the server.

3. PLESK to start to think that on clean server to try to protect also the server at least a little bit, with tmp, shm etc to setup noexec, nosuid, to install anti DOS Attacks program, disable compilers, remove unneccessary rpm files what not needed, of course all this interactive way n clean install.

4. Add YUM to PLESK for updates be more easy. Webmin have this feature and is nice for dummy admins.

5. a possibility to remove in installer a package, not just add.

BoXie
12th May 2005, 08:12 PM
Possibility to add Port Ranges in Firewall module !

ProfiTiger
16th May 2005, 08:04 AM
- Ability to add email-adresses to subdomain (somebody@sub.domain.com) , not necessary to create subdomain as full domain manually. Or simple way to move subdomain to full domain and keep all the settings (Template).
- Openwebmail as webmailer
- Simple way to select wanted/installed webmailer for all domains.

MaRiOs
17th May 2005, 02:58 AM
Modules to support http://www.openswan.org/ and http://openvpn.net/

gbjbaanb
21st May 2005, 07:02 PM
[I]4.Ability to add custom apps to the vault, i don't mind having to do all of the configuration stuff by hand. Don't know that i can not already do this today as the one box i am running plesk on is for a customer and not my own. As soon as debian is supported i will deploy to all of our debian boxes and have a chance to tinker in depth with it.{/I]

Absolutely, imagine if all the PHP scripts out there could be added to the application vault by the original developers. One of the biggest strengths of open source is that we can then add to the product, which will only enhance its appeal.

A couple of other things I'd like to see is full domain aliasing - not just vhost.conf stuff, but mail records too. Its not much good it sales@mydomain.com get rejected because I only have sales@mydomain.co.uk registered.

Also, the restore utility - I imagine 99.9% of the time, you want to restore everything, or just a single domain. So, can we please have an option to specify one domain on the command line instead of having to faff about creating text files.

And.. an easy way to set up shared SSL - so other domains can share the https certificate of a 'master' domain. this one would really provide value compared to other control panels.

poke
22nd May 2005, 01:21 AM
I'd like to see swsoft get rid of the pesky backup/restore issue. There is no point, in my opinion, to restrict web site restorations using psa's backup feature.

I also like the idea of being able to uninstall apps and such via the updater versus just installing them.. This would be useful for some of our dummy admins. :)

-poke

serial-thrilla
7th June 2005, 12:40 PM
the ability to hide unnecessary (no permission) directories should be configurable in the proftpd config file... unless psa overwrites this file?

DanLuria
7th June 2005, 03:21 PM
- Ability to hide columns on domain view
- Ability to group domains into collapsable folders based on type [redirect/hosting/etc]
- Totals for alloted space/bandwidth/etc
- Customize application vault from a client level + disable all applications
- Client-level ability to automatically prepend usernames to database names
- Word-wrapping in the Help window [if a long word is in it, the window stretches]

serial-thrilla
7th June 2005, 03:30 PM
one thing i noticed earlier in this thread is that the comment was made about plesk being the leader of features, scripts, etc. compared to other control panels.

well that's fine if plesk is the leader, but should that be a valid excuse for a lack of necessary functionality, features, etc. when new but not-so-useful features, modules, etc. are being released instead? (gaming server for one example)

need i bring in microsoft as an example?

serial-thrilla
7th June 2005, 03:33 PM
-ssl support for sub-domains

Cranky
8th June 2005, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by serial-thrilla
well that's fine if plesk is the leader, but should that be a valid excuse for a lack of necessary functionality, features, etc. when new but not-so-useful features, modules, etc. are being released instead? (gaming server for one example)

If you're referring to my post I didn't mean it in that way, I was reponding to (now deleted) posts from another user. I agree completely.

jamesyeeoc
8th June 2005, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by gbjbaanb

A couple of other things I'd like to see is full domain aliasing - not just vhost.conf stuff, but mail records too. Its not much good it sales@mydomain.com get rejected because I only have sales@mydomain.co.uk registered.

Ah, but if you have not registered mydomain.com, then it won't be world resolvable by DNS, and will never get to your server anyways.... Domain aliasing is only useful if you actually have registered domains which you want to all point to a common domain.

hivelord
19th June 2005, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Cranky
[B]33 Application Vault scripts - to my knowledge, no other CP on the market features anywhere near as many - these are incredibly popular amongst my clients.


Don't get me wrong, I'm starting to like Plesk myself. However, cPanel totes the most I've seen before, running at 40-50 apps on demand. And most of these aren't just dull remakes of the originals, like php-nuke (not in plesk last I looked), don't see php list anywhere either...

Cranky
19th June 2005, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by hivelord
Don't get me wrong, I'm starting to like Plesk myself. However, cPanel totes the most I've seen before, running at 40-50 apps on demand. And most of these aren't just dull remakes of the originals, like php-nuke (not in plesk last I looked), don't see php list anywhere either...

To my knowledge they aren't part of cpanel, they're a commercial third-party add-on (fantastico). Plesk also has 2 commercial third-party add-ons for this that I know of (4PSA Integrator and one at CPSkins.com)...

serial-thrilla
20th June 2005, 07:27 PM
another feature would be to add an "All" option to the user list for the crontab showing all registered cron jobs instead of having to go to each user and view what's listed.

EvolutionCrazy
26th June 2005, 07:54 AM
i would like to see a true bandwidth calculation system...

not a system based on logs...

my example:
i've a file downloadable with a size of 350mb....

most part of the users that download it use a download manager like getright... in that way in my log i will see 4downloads requests for each ip (getright with its "accelerate" mode requests the same file multiple times...)

in that way the bandwidht usage after some time is this:

plesk: 200gb
ISP switch meter: 100gb
Hotsanic on the server: 100gb

i think that isp switch and hotsanic are real bandwidth calculation... plesk instead calculate a fake bandwidth and i will not be surprised if my costumers ask me for a refund if they find that the bandwidth usage reported by their panel is FAKE...:rolleyes:

radialhosting
28th June 2005, 03:43 PM
Plesk for Solaris would be awesome. Sparc ot Intel.

Cranky
28th June 2005, 03:45 PM
Plesk 1 worked on Solaris, not sure if it's likely to be mainstream enough to be developed on again.

radialhosting
28th June 2005, 03:48 PM
That’s too bad. We run a lot of java based web applications on Sun and have had a lot of success. With the cost of Sun Sparc hardware coming down and the increasing interest to utilized 64bit processors it's extremely cost effective to use Sun, especially if you buy used gear.

Xtreme-IT
30th June 2005, 07:00 AM
Plesk on freeBSD running on Sparc would rule...

If only the would make Plesk so it would use the portstree of freeBSD instead of making their own builds of the pkgs. This way I could keep my Apache/PHP/Mysql and so on up to date through my portstree and I would have to wait on SW-soft for package updates

Cranky
17th September 2005, 01:32 PM
<bump>

jspilon
16th October 2005, 02:59 PM
Functionnality to treat subdomains as domains without adding it as a seperate domain in the cp. Wheter its about using a credit or not to supply dns, mail and frontpage capabilities to a subdomain that would be great because when you have a customer with only domain administator access ( no client account ) then they need 2 accounts to do this...( subdomain as standalone domain ) and his a pain for clients with limited number of domains.. it can be great for the hoster's side meaning that you have x standalone domain credits and those are good for domainand/or subdomains that would need complete functionnality...

normanu
17th October 2005, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by Cranky
33 Application Vault scripts - to my knowledge, no other CP on the market features anywhere near as many - these are incredibly popular amongst my clients.

I'm not saying at all that you're not wrong ... there's plenty of must-have features which we don't have ... but it's software development, you can't expect everything to appear all at once without major bugs and problems - I don't want ANY of the above features if they're going to break my servers because they're rushed.

SWsoft have increased Plesk dev team significantly since acquiring Plesk, Inc. and have done a fantastic job at developing the product that is Plesk752 IMHO. I'd love to see some of these features in Plesk 8, but I'd also like to see a stable, reliable and relatively non-buggy product.

Without reading the whole thread I'd say psoft's H-Sphere has about the same or even more.

http://www.psoft.net/HSdocumentation/admin/easyapp_list.html

Thats the list and they have allot of standards built into the panel aswell...
So total maybe 36 orso ?

Cranky
30th October 2005, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by normanu
Without reading the whole thread I'd say psoft's H-Sphere has about the same or even more.

http://www.psoft.net/HSdocumentation/admin/easyapp_list.html

Thats the list and they have allot of standards built into the panel aswell...
So total maybe 36 orso ?

That wasn't my point. It's mostly irrelevant now as the other poster deleted all his posts.

Keep the features coming, there's some useful ones above!....

werewolf
1st November 2005, 03:48 AM
I just migrated from a Cobalt Raq to a server with Plesk. So here are some issues I have had and some features I would like:

A Plesk repair tool
Plesk is very brittle. If its internal database gets a little bit corrupted, nothing works anymore.

It happened when I migrated from the Cobalt. A bug in the migration agent resulted in a domain that was incorrectly created. It did not appear in the domain list, so it was impossible to delete it. It was also impossible to recreate it.

Then some pages were giving errors about some missing rows in the internal database.

So a tool that can parse and repair the database would be nice.

Domain aliasing
No need to explain, many people have already asked for it. It was really a pain to migrate from the Cobalt since several domains were aliased.

Rejected emails
I use the option "Mail to nonexistent user=>Forward to address". It allows to use one-time email addresses like with mailinator.com. However, I would like a way to reject some of the addresses when the get spammed. I could do that on the Cobalt.

Import emails from server
When I create a mail account, I would like to be able to import all the emails from a pop3 account on another server to this account. I can do that in Horde, but that would be very nice to have directly in Plesk.

No ridiculous pricing for spam assassin/postgres etc.
I find it outrageous that we have to pay extra for Spam assassin, postgres and language. The support plan is already not that cheap.

No ridiculous arbitrary limitations and rules.
For example, ftp user names and database user names cannot start with a number in Plesk. I had several starting with a number on the Cobalt.


Anyways, from what I see here, I am not that sure that swsoft care much.

Cranky
8th November 2005, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by werewolf
Rejected emails
I use the option "Mail to nonexistent user=>Forward to address". It allows to use one-time email addresses like with mailinator.com. However, I would like a way to reject some of the addresses when the get spammed. I could do that on the Cobalt.

You can do this in Plesk. If you're being spammed to fdjhfjdhfj@yourdomain.com simply create a mail account for fdjhfjdhfj@yourdomain.com but don't setup redirects, autoresponders, mailbox, etc. on the address and the mail will be silently deleted.

No ridiculous arbitrary limitations and rules.
For example, ftp user names and database user names cannot start with a number in Plesk. I had several starting with a number on the Cobalt.

That's not something that can be changed as Plesk created unix users for every FTP account and on linux (redhat at least) you can't have a user beginning with a number. I suspect Cobalt authenticates FTP users via MySQL instead.

PixyPumpkin
10th November 2005, 05:17 AM
Configure bouncemaxbytes on Qmail, see also: http://forum.swsoft.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28691

ShadowMan
10th November 2005, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by PixyPumpkin
Configure bouncemaxbytes on Qmail Also should mention that this control file for Qmail requires a patch to be installed and Qmail re-compiled. (AFAIR)

rvdmeer
11th November 2005, 06:55 AM
Another feature that should be great:
- Support for greylisting.

lvalics
11th November 2005, 07:25 AM
For who are interested in queue management we just added to Power Toys. Hope PLESK will include in the future this feature.

Lindah
14th November 2005, 12:49 AM
My domain users would like to be able to list the mail users actual name beside the email address in the window Mail names for domain

ShadowMan
14th November 2005, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by Lindah
My domain users would like to be able to list the mail users actual name beside the email address in the window Mail names for domain And maybe an additional comment field for each user would sometimes be handy as well.

Piggie
14th November 2005, 11:21 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cranky
[B]You can do this in Plesk. If you're being spammed to fdjhfjdhfj@yourdomain.com simply create a mail account for fdjhfjdhfj@yourdomain.com but don't setup redirects, autoresponders, mailbox, etc. on the address and the mail will be silently deleted.

I have a server wide email set up that way. Not mailbox, no password, no redirect, nothing. I call it black_hole@mydomain.com

I tell my clients to use it to redirect to for use in all no specific email address perferences in thier email panels.

Piggie
14th November 2005, 11:22 PM
I would love to see IP black lists on a per domain level. Not just the whole server.

Wintermute
18th November 2005, 04:17 AM
Not all to die for...but teamspeak support would be nice ...

qxxx
6th December 2005, 09:56 AM
i wish...

easy uninstallation without throwing away a server. :(

JLChafardet
15th December 2005, 12:47 PM
I never realized how important was this until I needed it, i was dealing with a reseller account, and noticed that the domains the reseller adds, have my nameservers, and he have to manually edit them and add his.

i would LOVE to see on next version of plesk the ability to have client based DNS Templates

techster
20th December 2005, 03:50 PM
Among other things, the two things that really annoy me:

Apache ServerAdmin email address should not be listed as the clients, but as the server administrators for plesk, or better yet, and option. Clients have no real control over the web server.

Email listed in DNS entries should act the same. If there's a problem with a DNS entry for some reason and someone is using that e-mail address, more than likely it's not something the client can fix anyways.

These address are designed for e-mails to be sent to the administrators of these services, not clients using them.

Cranky
20th December 2005, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by techster
Among other things, the two things that really annoy me:

Apache ServerAdmin email address should not be listed as the clients, but as the server administrators for plesk, or better yet, and option. Clients have no real control over the web server.

Email listed in DNS entries should act the same. If there's a problem with a DNS entry for some reason and someone is using that e-mail address, more than likely it's not something the client can fix anyways.

These address are designed for e-mails to be sent to the administrators of these services, not clients using them.

I disagree. These should be kept as they currently are for anonymity reasons. Some of my clients don't want their domain users being told to email us, they want them to email them. If there is a critical problem requiring admin assistance the client will pass it on, since it is only the client and their domain users who can be affected by them.

techster
30th December 2005, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by Cranky
I disagree. These should be kept as they currently are for anonymity reasons. Some of my clients don't want their domain users being told to email us, they want them to email them. If there is a critical problem requiring admin assistance the client will pass it on, since it is only the client and their domain users who can be affected by them.

I can see this for reseller type accounts, but that's about it. Being able to specify an optional email address for both would be ideal, but then I would like a setting where I set it once, and and I am then able to set this email address as the default so I don't have to set it every time I create an account, if that makes sense. We don't offer reseller accounts, so if something goes wrong, I want these emails to come to my tech staff right away so the problem can get resolved as quickly as possible.

Here's an example of why I hate the way it is now. I have two personal domains in our box. The contact e-mail address I have setup for myself is my personal address through my ISP. This address now shows up in both the dns listing and in the server response. Granted, I can turn that off for Apache, but it's mandatory to be in the dns zone listing. This can give the impression that my site is then hosted through my ISP and someone may be willing to e-mail them about the problem, even though the domain has nothing to do with them. Now, I could change this to be an e-mail address associated with that domain, but if something goes wrong with the dns that effects that dns listing, hence the MX record as well, I'll never get that e-mail.

I can respect people's anonymousity for certain areas, but in my case, and I'm sure many others as well, it's just not necessary to have.

BillyParadise
31st December 2005, 03:56 PM
Overall, I prefer Plesk over Ensim (which I use in my day job), but there's one Ensim feature I'm dying for: Domain Aliasing.

In the competing product, you can enter a list of domain aliases which just point to the main domain name.

for example: bunnies.com is the main domain
ilovebunnies.com is an alias
bunnies.info is an alias



BP

lvalics
31st December 2005, 06:40 PM
It will be in the next version. Alias is comming ...

cyrus1u1
2nd January 2006, 06:44 PM
do anybody know when the next version is being released? anytime soon like springtime 06?

how much does it cost to update?

ALGORYTHM
3rd January 2006, 06:52 AM
features wise i don't think there's anything major i'd like to see. i would however like to see a speed increase!

i run plesk on a dual 2.8 xeon box with 2GB ram and next to no load and the plesk interface is slow!

it's just not right! :p

Cranky
3rd January 2006, 10:54 AM
Since 7.5.4/PHP5 it's much quicker than it used to be IMHO.

atinoco
9th January 2006, 01:31 AM
Spamassassin: Ability to import (upload) Whitelists & Backlists from a text file.

dahamsta
9th January 2006, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by cyrus1u1
do anybody know when the next version is being released? 7.5.5 was supposed to be released about now, but they've decided to go to 8 now. They say "Q1 2006. In the February/March time frame".

adam

Hal9000
9th January 2006, 09:36 AM
So this means i need to give sw soft MORE MONEY to actually fix all the issues I am having with Plesk on Debian, especially with Qmail???
To make it clear, I don't like being fucked in the ass.

matt.simpson
9th January 2006, 09:54 AM
Upgrades are free if you have a subscription to SUS... If you don't, I suggest doing so.

~Matt Simpson

Hal9000
9th January 2006, 10:05 AM
if this is true, my ass is getting a little more relaxed now :P

matt.simpson
9th January 2006, 10:09 AM
It's true... SUS = Software Update Service

~Matt

cyrus1u1
10th January 2006, 06:45 PM
is there a way to check if my licence does inlcude it too?

normanu
13th February 2006, 07:08 PM
Next to webalizer and awstats add modlogan ..
or just replace webalizer cause it sucks ;)

dahamsta
14th February 2006, 07:44 AM
According to modlogan.org, it's no longer being maintained; and according to sf.net, the last release was January of '02. What would be the point of that?

adam

matt.simpson
14th February 2006, 09:08 AM
What's with ranting about Webalizer? There's nothing wrong with Webalizer... it's stable and collects all the stats most people would ever need. On that note... it collects the exact same stats as AWStats, accept the stupid resolution and Flash version, etc, which requires you to install JavaScript on your site ...

I personally dislike AWStats... it has a stupid ugly interface (programmer trying to be designer. At least Webalizer knows it's ugly), it's written in Perl and has historical security vulnerabilities...

~Matt Simpson

JamesB
15th February 2006, 02:41 PM
I'd like to see this dropped into qmail-smtpd's place:
http://www.linuxmagic.com/opensource/magicmail/magic-smtpd/

Q6511200
17th February 2006, 05:54 PM
What about MySQL 5?
Will it be ready?

GregBeason
6th March 2006, 06:03 PM
So far, I'm very new with Plesk, but the features I'd like to add to the list are:

- move mail storage under the domain's directory (where htdocs, subdomains, etc). This would put just about everything in the same location.

- built-in ability to have tagged spam moved to a different folder.

Cranky
10th March 2006, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by cyrus1u1
is there a way to check if my licence does inlcude it too?

As your sales rep or reseller.

mmusic
8th April 2006, 07:13 PM
I want to second Cranky's suggestion of a need for more than one Db to be accessible to a single Db user through Plesk control panel.

For those like me who can't wait for that:

i found a workaround to the issue through the command line (SSH window) in Virtuozzo. Here's the skinny:

through plesk, create "database_a" and username "user1"

create "database_b" and no users

in SSH window:

mysql -uadmin -p

\\ login to mysql with user "admin@localhost"
\\ will prompt for password

enter password

\\ once logged into mysql:

use database_b;

\\ the following will grant select priveleges
\\ on all tables in database_b to user1

GRANT SELECT ON database_b.*
TO user1@localhost;

\\ now user1 will have select privileges to
\\ database_a AND database_b.
\\ (priveleges to db_a were granted in
\\ plesk.)


\\ replace SELECT with ALL to grant all
\\ privileges, or INSERT, UPDATE, etc,
\\ depending upon what priveleges you wish
\\ to grant.

aaabyss
21st August 2006, 12:37 AM
I would also like to see the ability to set mail preferences along with domain templates:
e.g. Standard user box, standard aliases for that box, (abuse, admin, info, postmaster, users choice)

ALSO, just in case anyone missed it on Cranky's list (thanks Cranky)
AWSTATS!!!!

aaabyss